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Moses 5:11 · 2 Nephi 2:23

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Pearl of Great Price Moses 5:11
"Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption"
Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 2:23
"And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin"

The fortunate-fall doctrine, taught in near-mirror terms: without the transgression, no seed/children, no joy, no knowledge of good and evil. Eve states it as confession (Moses 5:11; cf. Adam at Moses 5:10 'because of my transgression… I shall have joy'); Lehi states it as argument from 'opposition in all things' (2 Nephi 2:11), reaching 'Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy' (2 Nephi 2:25). Interpretive, not textual: the two share the doctrine and the terms transgression/seed/joy but no distinctive phrase, and the Book of Mormon nowhere marks Lehi's teaching as drawn from this account.

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